UGH why the fuck do German cars have to be so expensive to fix

"dogisbadob" (dogisbadob) 01/12/2015 at 20:37 • Filed to: None

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and not reliable?

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norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > dogisbadob 01/12/2015 at 20:40

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because they aren't american...

bob and john > dogisbadob 01/12/2015 at 20:42

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they arent reliable because morons dont know how to maintain them...a properly amintained merc or audi (esp the TDIS) will LONG outlast anything american

Nibby > dogisbadob 01/12/2015 at 20:43

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That's actually the WORST E class you could buy, in terms of reliability. Still, with decent maintenance they should be okay.

My friend has a 2001 ML430 his parents eventually gave to him (they are the original owners) and it has 170k miles and still going.

dogisbadob > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback 01/12/2015 at 20:43

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or Japanese :(

Zipppy, Mazdurp builder, Probeski owner and former ricerboy > dogisbadob 01/12/2015 at 20:44

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I have a friend who DDs a Jag XJ. go figure.

Sam > dogisbadob 01/12/2015 at 20:44

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As someone who's family owns 3 German cars (Porsche 924, MercedesBenz 300TD, BMW 530iT), they are completely reliable if you maintain them. But if you don't maintain them, you may as well just hand the mechanic (or parts store) your wallet, because it can get expensive quick.

dogisbadob > bob and john 01/12/2015 at 20:45

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Yeah, but it's no match for Toyota/Lexus

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > bob and john 01/12/2015 at 20:46

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I doubt that they would outlast an older truck.

Brian Silvestro > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 01/12/2015 at 20:50

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I would like to see a religiously serviced German car versus a who-gives-a-fuck truck. It would be an interesting comparison.

dogisbadob > Sam 01/12/2015 at 20:50

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cool car collection. What generations are the wagons?

German cars require much more maintenance than Japanese cars, and even regular parts are 3x the price for no reason. Window switches are not, and should not be, a regular maintenance item!

dogisbadob > Nibby 01/12/2015 at 20:51

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Yeah, this was the beginning of the end for Mercedes :(

Sam > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 01/12/2015 at 20:51

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I'd be willing to bet my mom's Merc 300TD will outlast anything.

Brian Silvestro > Nibby 01/12/2015 at 20:53

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we both have friends who were gifted MLs

it's Mathias

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Brian Silvestro 01/12/2015 at 20:53

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It's like an M16 vs an AK47

bob and john > dogisbadob 01/12/2015 at 20:54

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lets see :P

currently there is a 2008 IS250 AWD and a 2010 A3 TDI at my parents house

Brian Silvestro > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 01/12/2015 at 20:54

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Valid

bob and john > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 01/12/2015 at 20:54

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sure. lets take something meant to be abused and haul shit to a passenger car.

at least to apples to apples man.

Sam > dogisbadob 01/12/2015 at 20:55

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W123 and E34. Currently the E34 is down due to valve cover gasket failure ($45 each).

Nibby > Brian Silvestro 01/12/2015 at 20:56

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Not the same person!

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > bob and john 01/12/2015 at 20:57

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You said anything American.

v8corvairpickup > dogisbadob 01/12/2015 at 20:57

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Because your E320 has been chatting with my 2001 Jetta TDi. Damned expensive to maintain and keep running. It is no longer running. So much so that I've taken my daughter's 1991 Prelude as a dd. Even if it needs lots of attention before it is truly reliable.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Brian Silvestro 01/12/2015 at 20:58

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Yet incredibly ironic.

dogisbadob > v8corvairpickup 01/12/2015 at 21:00

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Well it's definitely not going to be my E320 :p

I'm currently shopping for a new car since mine is becoming a basket case. I like luxury cars, and wagons, but I just wish there were more luxury wagons. At least there's the Volvo V40.

Note: I'm not looking specifically for a wagon; it's just that this E320 just happened to show up in a search for cars in my budget.

Brian Silvestro > Nibby 01/12/2015 at 21:00

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no I mean the friend I'm talking about is Mathias

His ML is cooler (by cooler, I mean it has more miles)

Nibby > Brian Silvestro 01/12/2015 at 21:01

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I know what you meant :P

Brian Silvestro > Nibby 01/12/2015 at 21:01

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239,000!!!!

dogisbadob > Sam 01/12/2015 at 21:02

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Oh yeah. W123's are awesome! Wow $45 is a lot for valve cover gaskets! VCG's for my ES300 are less than $20 for *both* but it is a transverse V6 so you have to replace a bunch of other gaskets, so it ends up being like $40 total.

My next car will NOT have a transverse V6!

Nibby > Brian Silvestro 01/12/2015 at 21:08

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._.

Brian Silvestro > Nibby 01/12/2015 at 21:12

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it ain't care tho

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Agrajag > Brian Silvestro 01/12/2015 at 21:40

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Hachi machi!

Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney > bob and john 01/12/2015 at 22:07

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that exists too, in the form of a mid to late 90s Explorer.

orcim > dogisbadob 01/13/2015 at 01:08

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So you're saying that the 93' 400E my middle boy got gifted may not be the most economical gift? (Since I'm the one that's gonna figure out the mechanicals?)

JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 > bob and john 01/17/2015 at 12:14

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This is true but what do you mean by "outlast"? When the reliable American car needs its most major repair that costs as much as one of the MB's 10k services?

450X_FTW > dogisbadob 01/27/2015 at 13:21

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That's because of the power created by the German cars. You can detune a car and make it last a long longer, ie Toyota

dogisbadob > 450X_FTW 01/27/2015 at 13:44

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Even the non-powerful German cars have the same problems. And don't forget, there are lots of very powerful American cars that don't suffer that shit, either. For example, power window switches are not a regular maintenance item in most non-European cars. Honda and Toyota can make 100 hp/L NA for hundreds of thousand of trouble-free miles.

And Lucas electronics weren't installed in muscle cars, either.

CONFIGANCE > bob and john 08/18/2015 at 15:33

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I think you meant to say they will outlast an unmaintained American.